Mysore/Mysuru: The Chraisthara Pragathipara Samsthe, Mysuru, has slammed the Government for introducing Anti-Conversion Bill.
In a press release, Samsthe President Gnanaprakash alleged that the Bill was introduced to scare the Christian community. Accusing the Government of introducing the Bill as a tactic to divert public attention from burning and serious issues which have been haunting the country and the State, he said that the Government was targeting minority Christian community through the Bill.
He said that every person has the right to follow a faith of his/her liking and charged the Government of falsifying the community over conversion. Maintaining that the Government cannot tie the hands of the community through such threats, he said that the Samsthe will take up the cause of Christian community through various means of demonstrations and protests.
Simply speaking no community benefits from anybody converting to its portals for whatever reason. The Muslim community has the least to gain if anyone wishes to be one of them and I can’t see how even a Christian community can count money and offerings into its Church hundi if a couple of non-Christians chose to become Georges or Jacksons, because hundi culture simply does not exists in both the communities. A close friend of mine, who is an enlightened Brahmin quipped saying that it is exactly why the whole issue is gaining ground. No one really cares if one of their caders has a full stomach that night or he is suffering from a grave sickness or his children are getting a proper education or not, as long as he is a regular contributor to various cultural themes. I thought my friend has a point there.
India us a strange nation. Anywhere in the world if they bring anticonversion bill it will be the minority who will feel safe and happy. Let’s say Pakistan introduced the same anticonversion law. Christians,Hindus and Sikhs will be celebrating.
Government does not have much better job to do, foolish governments. our governments are so bothered about food habits, religion, love jihad, all such rubbish which does not have any value added to society or to a state
we elect government to provide good health care, schooling, infrastructure, law and order, world class connectivity, transport, housing, creating jobs for youths, supporting industries, farmers.
Already our courts and judiciary are overloaded, with all this foolish laws what will be benefit , how prosecution will work, how judiciary will work ?
As you Sow so your Reap! Stupid citizen can only elect Stupid government because he elected the government , not on the basis of any merit but only based on caste, liquor, money, personal favors and all other illegitimate reasons now yelling ‘we elect government to provide good health care, schooling, infrastructure, law and order, world class connectivity, transport, housing, creating jobs for youths, supporting industries, farmers”. It wont help! You elected a corrupt incompetent scoundrel just like you in every election for 7 decades and now suddenly can’t change as a miracle! The basic reason why the freedom of religion was abused because if you increase the number of people in your religion you can conquer a nation indirectly without going for a war! For 7 decades if we had elected only competent and clean people who could deliver irrespective of caste or religion, there would be no necessity for conversion as ‘Gareebi would have been Hatavo’ ed’ 40 years ago, and nobody needed to make false promises to convert others to their religion! Just because vote bank politics was kept alive for serving their own family and friends who could loot the nation conversion because a lucrative business!
We recently saw a national shame when all the corrupt forces comprising of Dalas, power brokers and toll kit gangsters arm twisted a Prime minister to backout a law that would help millions of farmers avoid the middlemen and stupid citizens shout that democracy has won, that was a black day in the history of India! Now any group can gang up and back out any law, especially this one as this has more foriegn sponsors who can fund than the farmers protest
Islam and Christianity are converting religions.
Islam is particularly pernicious, intolerance and violence are hallmarks of this religion. All India Muslims in India had been the converted ones for centuries, forced by the Muslim invaders and rulers like Akbar, who ensured that the Hindu musician Tansen was converted to Islam. The late president Kalam and his region in Tamil Nadu became Muslim abode, through such forced conversion, by the invading Muslim thug like Malik Kafur, who did mass conversions in a large swathe of Tamil Nadu, where Kalam ancesters lived. These were Hindus, who dared to oppose Malika Kafur.
Tipu Sultan did his conversions on a large scale.
All Indian Christians had been converted ones too. In this case, the lower caste ones were the target and were promised climb in the social ladder..
In South India, massive conversions were in Kerala and Tamil Nadu.
Christian institutions established missionary hospitals to treat the poor.
No use in bringing laws now, as the Congress Leaders , who were the founding fathers of Independent India, ensured Muslims got the rights above those of Hindus, with their own personal laws., For a Muslim , his religion comes first, and patriotism the last.
The Muslim rulers like the Mughals, invasion of Muslim terrorist like Malik Kafur, and Muslim thug like Tipu meant that Indian Hindus were forcibly converted to Muslim and Islam was thrust on their gullet. Christian missionaries dangled to the low caste the carrot of social climb by conversion to Christianity.
Akbar forcibly converted Tansen , the Hindu musician into Islam.
Muslims are intolerant, very often unpatriotic as supporters of Pakistan. Thanks to the Indian leaders of Congress they were given special rights, which made Hindus the second class citizens.
Christian missionaries established good schools, colleges and hospitals. Where as the Muslim organisations have been interested in promoting their militant religion, and are always the enemy within India.
Well, no one can do anything about it now.
Christian and Muslim organisations in India, thrive by converting more and more Hindus into their religions.
While in the West, in the Christian country I live, minorities like me, a Hindu is respected and protected by law.
These Indian Christians, whose forebears were converted from a low caste with a promise that they will be at par with the upper caste Hindus as Christians show their basic mean Indian mentality.
Well, No point in introducing this law, as Muslims are treated as a first class citizens, by Nehru and others granting them special personal laws. Decades ago, Christian missionaries established good performing schools and colleges, as well excellent hospitals like Mysuru Mission Hospital and Vellore Mission Hospitals. Both of them now are managed by the Indian Christians, and their quality of treatment has gone down. Muslim population in India exceeds the sum of population all the Middle East and Gulf Muslim states, and still they howl as minorities.
To appease them, the Centre will develop a central Tipu University at Srirangapatna, as your president Kovind ( what a name-not Govind?) is an admirer of this thug Tipu.
Raju Lowda elected most clean government ever in history, competent PM ever, 56″PM ever, UNESCO declared best PM, who has done masters in Entire political science, who changes attire 6 times a day to showoff,. Raju Gowda ask you father who brought Green Revolution, white revolution, abolished Zamandari system, ISRO, IIT,IIM, developed India to world class, cities like Bangalore, mumbai, chennai, HYD, Delhi, panaji, etc etc, metro’s , airports, life span from 45 to 65age, women equality, RTI, RTE, millions on engineers, million of doctors, brought India in top 5 economies of world, top doctors in world, top CEO’s from India, the whole looked at India.
About farm laws, 700 farmers died were they pakistani national ? why they died ? to joke ?
Gareebe hatoa was a true narrative which worked due to competent governments , ask your father may be he was having atlas cycle, now you may be owning a luxury car and villa in mysore.
Foolish Government elected by fools , risking future of our own children and our country !
Dear Nandini & presto Questo,
Is hinduism so weak ? why people leave and change religion itself? it is very big decision which will impact their entire life and their children life Isn’t it ? Still very few people like to change ! why ?
There might be some strong points , may be due to inequality as far as i know and second one is may be understanding true meaning of religion as worshipper and worshipping creator rather idols, trees, crowns, cows, may be it is all assumptions, third may be due to economic uplift may be, but all these with his consent and full knowledge !
Imagine I am white Christian, I am going to ISKON temple every month and becoming Krishna bhakt and changing my religion so what ! it is with full consent, wish and knowledge, I know many foreign nationals who takes part in ISKON and they worship Krishna with devotion and changed religion. So will that be an issue as well !
I see many White ISKCON members dressed in Indian clothes , men with tufts and women with sarees in the Western country I live now.
ISKCON is a cult, and hence your example is bad and is born out of ignorance. The cult ISKCON requires its members to have certain code of conduct-dress like Hindus, chant Krishna name and eat vegetarian food. These do not mean they were converted to Hinduism.
You ignore the fact, out of sheer ignorance, I should say that Hinduism is not a conversion religion.
Your 2 lengthy rants say all about you, an ignoramus.
The politicians you have there in your country, you deserve them.
I see many White ISKCON members dressed in Indian clothes , men with tufts and women with sarees in the Western country I live now.
ISKCON is a cult, and hence your example is bad and is born out of ignorance. The cult ISKCON requires its members to have certain code of conduct-dress like Hindus, chant Krishna name and eat vegetarian food. These do not mean they were converted to Hinduism.
You ignore the fact, out of sheer ignorance, I should say that Hinduism is not a conversion religion.
Your 2 lengthy rants say all about you, an ignoramus.
The politicians you have there in your country, you deserve them.
@citizen
@Never Presto Questo has given an excellent reply to you.
I suggest, you read more about the differences between converting religions like Islam and Christianity, and non-converting one like Hinduism as well as what a cult is.
Unless Hindus take pride in their culture and believes conversions will just go on. In a matter of time India will have the largest muslim population and islam could be the state religion
@boregowda
Your former president, the late Kalam’s ancestors were Hindus in the Tirunelveli District of Tamil Nadu. They were converted forcibly by Muslim rulers, who also did conversions in Kerala as this state is the neighbour.
For your information, all Islamic conversions are forced by various means-threats for example like that happened under that thug Tipu Sultan.
India already participates in the world meetings of Islamic nations, as it has a very large Muslim population.
No need for the Islamic state religion at all, given that Muslims have special rights making, you , the Hindu , a second class citizen in your country.
Their WAKF Board in every state, established by all central and state governments of all parties, is more powerful than the Hindu equivalent.
@Raju Gowda .. Very sensible comment. When Sway Vivekananda was in Japan, he wanted a to buy some fruits to meet a sick friend and could not find. Out of frustration he mumbled “what is this country, he can’t even find a place to buy some fruit” . Somebody overheard it and in a few minutes a stranger handed him over a basket of fruit. When Swamiji tried to pay, he politely refused and wanted a favor in return, not to tell in india that Japan did have any place to buy a fruit. Look at the citizen of country. Going on strike for illegitimate reasons, abusing the elected government including the judges, obstructing the normalcy whenever dies not suit him.one will be surprised even how this nation survived so long with so many back stabbing anti national gang. They have a toolkit for every way they want to ruin their d nation.
Yes exactly this the is point, they wear, they eat , they chant as they desire to do, may be they change their religion as well, you and me don’t know! we should not be bothering also it is at his or her discretion , Did the government where you live passed a resolution to stop this cult ?
where you live they respect democratic value, freedom, liberty and you enjoy this, if same happens here it rattles you. Even I live in same country where you live
Look at Sam, he would have heard this story from some Heng pungli on Facebook like sullibele and describing here, fell petty on such guys.
@citizen
Still you have not grasped the meaning of the world ‘cult’. Hence, no arguments with you, and yet again your ignorance. Nothing rattles me about corrupt India, and about the likes of you.
@Sam What you are alluding to about Vivekananda sounds like your imagination. Every country, including Japan had fruits.
@citizen
Still you have not grasped the meaning of the world ‘cult’. Hence, no arguments with you, and yet again your ignorance. Nothing rattles me about corrupt India, and about the likes of you.
@Sam What you are alluding to about Vivekananda sounds like your imagination. Every country, including Japan had fruits.
Dear Never presto questo, I know exact meaning of cult, you termed ISKON cult, so can we say JESUS cult, CSI cult, if it is ISKON it is a cult, if it is CSI it is conversion that to forced conversion ! you are like 2 sided coin, when you go aboard you uphold liberty, democracy, freedom, morality.
when it comes to your ideology, you are inclined towards right wing which is against it. It is not about religion it is about ethics nobody should interfere in this. You follow what you love and let others follow what they love !
@Never Presto Questo
This person @citizen, lacks braincells to understand and argue. Typical idiotic Indian. Ignore this person.