Exclusive interview with Krishna Devaraya of Anegundi Samsthanam
By B.C. Thimmaiah
Krishna Devaraya is the 19th descendant of Anegundi Samsthanam and Vijayanagar rulers from the Aravidu dynasty. He has done enormous conservation work to ensure that future generations are made aware of royal traditions, culture and legends. One of his exemplary works was to restore the 250-year-old dilapidated Heere Deewan Mansion at Anegundi in Hospet Taluk. This Mansion has now been restored to its original splendour, thanks to his passion and firm resolve to restore heritage. Krishna Devaraya was in Mysuru recently to inaugurate the dolls exhibition organised by Ramsons Kala Pratishtana as part of Dasara festivities. Star of Mysore spoke to him about the glory of Dasara and also the importance of heritage. Excerpts:
Star of Mysore (SOM): Can you tell us about Dasara celebrations in Vijayanagar Empire? We have heard a lot about the Mahanavami Dibba. How is Dasara celebrated there now and on what scale?
Krishna Devaraya: Dasara at the Mahanavami Dibba was perhaps the grandest celebration in mediaeval India in terms of pomp and splendour. Every traveller describes it in great detail — especially about it being a grand spectacle which was unparalleled. At present, there is no public festival of Dasara at the Mahanavami Dibba. Though it is wished that the Dibba be used for its main purpose in the future — the celebration of Dasara. In Anegundi, the celebration of Dasara still continues on a very small scale.
SOM: How do you see the Dasara celebrations of the Government when compared to the grandeur, pomp and glory of the Dasara of the Kings and Queens?
Krishna Devaraya: The primary difference is the nature of the festival. The royal Dasara used to be a religious affair whereas Dasara is mostly a secular affair now with the head of the State not performing any major ritual worship of Devi. Also, earlier Dasara used to involve various games related to physical prowess — wrestling, archery, etc., and was a place for the men to display their achievements.
It has lost the ‘vira’ component almost completely now. Garadi Manes used to train wrestlers, especially for wrestling competitions during Dasara. Today, the Garadi Manes themselves are going into oblivion due to a lack of patronage. Whereas the Royal Dasara was about worship of Devi and patronage for various traditional artists, sports, etc., the Government celebration is more about a spectacle for tourist consumption.
SOM: Is there any major difference between the Dasara celebrations of Vijayanagar rulers and Mysore Wadiyars?
Krishna Devaraya: On the ritual front, they are one and the same. Dasara celebration was earlier restricted to the independent emperor in Southern India. As per shastras, worshipping Devi in this fashion in Sharad Navaratri is akin to performing an Ashvamedha yajna. The emperor used to perform the Dasara festival and his vassals would visit him to pay homage.
Also, seemollaanghana (cros-sing one’s border) to attack the enemy used to be done after Dasara celebrations. When Mysore Samsthana started their own Dasara, it was done to show that they have become independent rulers on their own after the fall of the Vijayanagar Empire. The rituals were followed rigorously. Only the scale of the celebration would be smaller as Mysore was but a fraction of the size of the erstwhile Vijayanagar Empire.
SOM: Does the royal family of Vijayanagar have any connection with the royal family of Mysore Wadiyars? If so, can you elaborate?
Krishna Devaraya: There are no marital relations with the Mysore family as far as I know. It is stated that the ruler of Srirangapatna was the father-in-law of Sri Krishna Raya and was given a position of pride during Dasara festivities — said so by Domingo Paes, who was a traveller from Portuguese India. But no other such relationship is mentioned after that generation.
SOM: You are the 19th descendant of Anegundi Samsthanam and Vijayanagar rulers and you have restored the Heere Deewan Mansion to its original splendour. This is a much-appreciated step at a time when of late people are forgetting their heritage. What do you have to say when it comes to preserving our heritage?
Krishna Devaraya: Firstly, heritage should not be destroyed. We have seen how the 1,000-pillared mandapa in Tirumala was destroyed by the Government in the name of development. If you cannot maintain something, at the very least, do not destroy it. Secondly, the budget allocation for the preservation of heritage in India is very low compared to the number of heritage structures we have.
The budget allocated to the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) is less than Rs. 1,500 crore per year. The Government should allocate more funds and also have a fund for heritage conservation to which donations shall be made 100 percent exempt (for Corporate Social Responsibility as well). Traditional architects and masons are becoming very rare now due to lack of opportunities.
The Government should have programmes for enabling these artisans to continue their traditional occupations. Proper maintenance and conservation work in our temples and other heritage buildings shall ensure that they continue to have a source of income. Heritage conservation should include the conservation of these traditions and the artisan families.
SOM: In Mysuru, there are two heritage buildings — Devaraja Market and Lansdowne Building — that have been recommended to be demolished by the State Government. But the members of the Mysore royal family Pramoda Devi Wadiyar and Yaduveer Krishnadatta Chamaraja Wadiyar are in favour of restoration. Since you have the experience of restoring Heere Deewan Mansion, what would be your take on this?
Krishna Devaraya: Of course, we are not in favour of the destruction of any heritage structure. Even from an environmental point of view, they are more sustainable than modern buildings. The heritage buildings, when maintained well, survive for centuries; the so-called modern RCC buildings do not even survive for one generation (average life expectancy is more than 75 years now).
This is not sustainable development. In terms of beauty, aesthetics and environmental conservation, it is always better to preserve heritage buildings instead of replacing them with modern hideous constructions.
SOM: There is a proposal to lease out the Jayalakshmi Vilas Mansion in Mysuru to the Government for 30 years. Do you think this is a wise move? And do you think the Government will do well in maintaining this heritage Mansion?
Krishna Devaraya: It is based on what the Government plans to do. Archaeological Department and traditional sthapatis should be involved to ensure that the heritage building is conserved properly. That should be the primary aim when it comes to such structures; everything else must be subservient to this goal.
SOM: Can you tell us about your family? The people of Mysuru would love to know.
Krishna Devaraya: I am the 19th descendant of Sri Krishna Deva Raya. I belong to the Aravidu Dynasty. I did my schooling at Sri Aurobindo International Centre of Education, Pondicherry and completed my Mechanical Engineering at Bapuji Institute of Engineering and Technology, Davanagere in 1992. I worked in the USA for almost seven years and came back to India in 2008 after the demise of my father.
My parents are late Raja Sri Achyuta Devaraya and Rajamata Smt. Chandrakantha Devi. My mother belongs to the royal family of Narasinghgarh in Madhya Pradesh. I am married to Rani Rathnasree Raya and we have three children — a son and twin daughters. My son Tirumala Venkata Devaraya is doing his final year in History at Durham University, UK. My daughters Shiva Rayakumari and Krishna Rayakumari are studying in 10th grade at Isha Home School, Coimbatore.
Descendant of Krishna Devaraya,, the king of Vijayanagara Empire that existed ages ago, and ended ages ago?
So, spend time interviewing him to listen to the nonsense, he spouts!
We have moved on even from the more recent Wadiyar’s dynasty which lasted longer than the Vijayanagara dynasty.
Waste of time.
Heritage and cultural icons are preserved world over, being disdainful of the richness and heritage of the previous past and glory of India only damages our own ancient History.
Most of the old architectural edifices of eminence, now in ruins, must be restored if the future generations are to learn and appreciate the brains, the workings behind the structures and the architecture. Those temples and buildings cannot be re constructed to withstand time in the same way that they have withstood for so many years.
If one cannot appreciate it, let’s not disdain it.
Hey Gauri Rao
Congratulations, you have scored worthless brownie points with your nonsensical post.
What heritage structures you want to be restored in Karnataka: Hampi, Hoysala , Srirangpana Fort, down to Lansdowne buildings and Devaraja \market? Words are easy when you do not exercise you brain. Just give me an example, where else in the world, you mention, so many heritage structures are being restored. This fool who claims he is a descendant of Hampi ruler spouts crap and you support him!
Structures like Hampi were by Muslim invasions are restored? If you seriously count there may be over 100 ‘heritage’ structures in Karnataka that need to be restored? Where do you get the money? The expertise and materials needed, as these structures are not modern civil engineering works but archaeological ancient edifices with materials that are no longer available. Get serious, before you post some nonsensical prattle.
Meanwhile, today, Mysore city is crumbling with bad roads with potholes, rain bringing up sewage up and this cay=uses health issues. These roads needs repaired. There is crumbling Chamudi Hill structure, whose road collapses with any rain. The oldest medical college and hospitals in Karnataka-Mysore Medixcal College,, KR Hospital and Cheluvamba Hospital,just got about 90 crores for modernising and restoring buildings, very inadequate fund to bring them up to modern standards of buildings facilities and equipment.
Where do you get the money-the government? How much do they have to send ignoring the current burning issues in pandemic, public health and others?
Just gow up @Raho, and shut up.
Posters like @Gauri Rao, sitting comfortably at home dish out inane comments.
:This person Krishna Devaraya producing another set of observations about restoration of heritage structures. He clamis he is the descendant of the Krishna Devaraya of the Vijayangar empire. that existed centuries ago. The Hampi structures were left to ruins after the vicisous battle by the Muslim rulers, who razed the empire to dust. The rest, people over the decades from then looted , and sold the artefacts to collectors. Similarly about Hoysala empire ruins. The temples concerned are left standing telling sorry tales. There are others too. The Chdradurga fort. The Mysorean Tarasu wrote excellent novels about the rulers there.
Now about restoration involved. I was a student of civil engineering in the only engineering in Mysore in 1950s, and travelled the Old Mysore State-there are literally hundreds of heritage ruins. The priority must be to focus on the current structures like the Cha,mundi Hill, and ensure that it remains very protected, reamoving even the travel by its road, even by the so called VIPs. Stop constructions atop the Hill. Money spent here, is very much worth its value.
I have travelled the world-ignoring Americas, Austraklia and New Zealand-which became prepoer nations 300 years ago-heritage is not much here, one finds heritage structures like the Pyramids, and ofcourse in Italy. UNESCO poured money into restoration owork of Pyramids and still not enough is trestored. The city of Alexandria, where the Great Alexander is buried is in ruins., needing more work. The Italian site of Pompeii which was destroyed by the Vesuvius volcano, is not restored as the decades -long restoration work cost a lot of money
The problem is always priority where money is to be spent. In India, where over 500 million live below the poverty threshols and further 500 million difficult to eke out a living, the focus should be on them too.
Perhaps this KrishnaDevaraya, should move his butt and strat raising fnds travelling around the country and abroad, if he is so concerned about the heritahge structure preservtion-there are too ,many of these structures. Expressing mere concerns buys him column inches of propaganda, little else. Reacting tto this is foolish , as no government can ignore the current state of play of the country-the issues involved, there are amny, and sink all the funds into restoring the ruins. This is against the backdrop of fast population increase, creating yet more issues
Hello Gauri Rao
“Heritage and cultural icons are preserved world over, being disdainful of the richness and heritage of the previous past and glory of India only damages our own ancient History”
Give a couple of examples ,explaining what they are, and where they are restored.
“Most of the old architectural edifices of eminence, now in ruins, must be restored if the future generations are to learn and appreciate the brains, the workings behind the structures and the architecture”
Again, list those architectures of eminence in Karnataka, and suggest how they can be restored, and where the funds come from without sacrificing the funds needed for other current activities, which are many with higher priorities: in public health, water and energy sources, education, repairs of roads and highways, new highways, conservation of edifices like Chamundi Hill etc..many, many.
You see, very easy for you to provide ‘do good’observation, but the realities of India-with increasing population,
If you are a sensible person, you would realise that it is very difficult to restore centuries old edifices,as expertise and materials used are very very difficult to find .That was what realised when restoring just a small stone and ortar bridge near Srirangapatna-the Wellington Bridge. The aged stones and mortar could not be replicated. The columnist Javeed Nayyem who criticised this restoration, had no idea where to find these stones,how to age them etc.. ,when he often has no idea in his own field of medicine and cardiology, having suffered heart attack himself-a cardiologist!!